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It's true.

I hate yaoi fangirls, and I am one.

You may be looking at me with tears in your eyes right now and saying, "Why Chopstick... why?!"  

Well, I'm gonna tell you why.


1.  You're just writing about them because they're hot.

Let's just forget that they hated each other in the game.  Let's completely forget that both of them were completely straight and had loving girlfriends in the anime.  And heaven forbid I bring up the idea that they were really "just friends" in the manga.  I'm not really bitching about drabbles or crackfics so much as I am the fifty-page-long epics that completely ignore canon.  

AND I MEAN COMPLETELY.

Rinoa was just so whiny and Squall and Seifer were just SO KAWAII, you HAD to kill her or maim her or turn her into a ditzy bitch that Squall despised.  I hated her too, you know, but I'm not willing to actually sit down and write her out of the picture in such an abrupt and unlikely way it could be considered a cop-out.  For gods' sake, have pride in what you're writing and give it some believability.


2.  You think Japanese is TEH BESTEST LANGY-WAGE EVAR.

I said the word "kawaii" up there, and actually died a little on the inside when I did.  I might use Japanglish in real life, but, uh, I use it with my Japanese friends.  It stays out of my fics and my posts.  Why?  Because I speak English.  I am making an English-speaking post.  When I write fanfiction, I write it for the English-speaking reader.  I think the most Japanese I've ever used in a fic was for my Petshop of Horrors fanfic, but those are honorifics, and I can't figure out a proper way to translate honorifics into English without them sounding competely retarded.

Just to be completely clear, I'll include a little example that shows exactly what I hate.  (And excuse any similarity to any actual fic; this is one of my own creation written just for this rant.  However, if there is a fic just like this out there... I'm sure I hate it.  A lot.)

"Oh, Yuki-chan, you're so kawaii!" squealed Tohma, eyeing the blond bishounen.

"Hn."  Yuki arched an eyebrow at the CEO.  "You baka.  Urusai..."

Tohma shook his head, leaning into Yuki insistently.  "Urusai nai yo!  Watashi wa aishteru!"


WHAT.  THE.  FUCK.

Okay, one: I've seen Japanese like this actually used in fics.  And it's shit Japanese.  Like, really shit Japanese.  As in, "I-just-kinda-threw-some-stuff-I-saw-together-hope-it-fits-teehee" Japanese.

IF YOU LOVE THE LANGUAGE SO MUCH, WHY DO YOU ABUSE IT?

Some people might excuse it by saying, "Well, they're still learning.  This is how they practice."  They shouldn't be using the goddamn language in fics at all, dammit.  There are forums and chatrooms and pen-pal programs and websites, ALL geared towards learning Japanese.  Welcome to the Internet, kids.  It's a wonderful place.  Lemme introduce you to my best friend, Google.


3.  You write shitty songfics.

Okay, so maybe this is just a generic gripe that can go for any fic at all, but it runs pretty rampant in yaoi too.  I hate songfics.  I don't really care if a certain fic was inspired by a song, or features the lyrics quoted (at most, a few lines) before the fic starts, but any fic that features the song prominently in its body just annoys the crap out of me.  It breaks up the flow of the fic pretty dreadfully and just distracts from it.  Are you trying to hide the fact tht you can't write at all by hiding behind Prince's "When Doves Cry?"

Sadly, I have seen perfectly good fics completely ruined by song lyrics randomly inserted inbetween paragraphs.  Sometimes I go to the effort to actually open the fic in a word editor and remove the lyrics, but I mostly just skip over any fic that has "songfic" in its description completely.


4.  You leave the WORST reviews.

"liek omg ^_____^  THAT WUZ SO KAWAII!!!1  i luv inuyasha an miroku 2gether, their teh best lol ^_^;; PLZ WRITE MORE!!"

You review everything like this.  EVERYTHING.  I don't care if it's the most typo-ridden, OOC, badly-written drivel that has ever graced the Intarwebnet, you think it is THE BEST THING EVER.  And you will add it to your favorites list and surely read it at least once a week, because it features your favorite unlikely couple and that's all that matters, dammit.  

Man, that ticks me off.

I've had the poor luck to run across terrible fics, then glance at the reviews and see eight pages of naught but praise.  If you're going to read a pile of shit fic, at least have the grace to know that's what you're reading.  If you don't out-and-out flame the author, at least give them what we of the more-than-one-brain-cell club like to call "constructive criticism" and tell them how to improve their fic.  

For the love of god, DON'T ENCOURAGE THE BAD WRITERS.  The type of yaoi fangirl that does is part of the reason why the rest of us have to muck through page after page of poorly-written crap just to find a single good fic.  

Actually, this goes for flames, too.  Often times this type of yaoi fangirl mindlessly flames any fic featuring a pairing she doesn't like, regardless of the actual fic's quality.  "NO U SUCK SESSHOMARU ONLY LUVS NARAKU!!!11  >_<"


5. Your fics are terrible.

This ties more into the ideas above, but I'd just like to expand on it a little bit.

Most yaoi fics are what I like to call Old Yeller fics.  They start out with a good idea, but after a while it just all goes to hell, and then it's time to take it out to the back yard and shoot it in the head.  Tragic, but necessary.

So sure, YaoiNoMiko0843 has this really cool idea... at first.  But then she lapses into five million cliches, makes it a rape fic, kills off all the main female characters, and caps it all off with a wedding... and my next gripe.


6.  You write MPREG.

FOR THE LOVE OF FUCKING GOD, WHY?

You DO know that the characters you're writing are MALE, right?  That they have penises and no tits, much less vaginas?  I could possibly understand something like this when you're dealing with a mysterious, alien/otherworldly character (like D from Petshop of Horrors, maybe), but Quatre of Gundam Wing?  

Why?

WHY?

"But they're in love and they need to have a BAY-BEEEE, Chopstick!"  you cry in protest, pointing to a very much in love Trieze and Zechs, with Zechs cradling his adorable hellspawn.

What the fuck.   Ever heard of adoption?  Men don't have the equipment for making babies, kids; I don't care how many times you watched Junior.  You're just writing it because you think that your adorable couple needs a baby to cement their relationship, and babies just have to come from the innards of one of them, or it just doesn't count.  I swear to god, you'd think that to become a Gundam pilot it was a prerequisite to have ovaries planted up your ass, these fics are so rampant in the Gundam (Wing) fandom.


7.  You don't care about spelling/grammar/typos/MY SANITY.

I kick myself every time I catch the slightest mis-type I made that goes unnoticed by everyone else, I really do.  You, on the other hand, don't give a damn.  This is made obvious by the fact that you're misspelling the main character's name, using "loose" instead of "lose," and think that awkward only has one w in it.  Okay, so I'm being a little unfair and pointing out some really common misspellings, but just consider this a public service.  

I don't really care about those two common misspellings as much as I care about those who commit the unforgivable crime of using Internet abbreviations, smilies, and/or 1337 speak in their fics.   If Edward made a slightly nervous smile after he confessed his feelings to Greed, DO NOT express it with ^_^;.  Write it.  Describe it.  And when you're done doing that, read it a few times over to make sure it's devoid of typos.  Double-check your spelling of words you're not quite sure about.

When to use "he and I" instead of "him and me":  If you're writing about Edward and Alphonse going out to buy more condoms and lube and you're writing from Al's perspective, there is a common mistake with grammar, and that is to automatically use "he and I" because it "sounds more correct."  As a rule of thumb, you subtract the other person from the sentence.  If what you're using still makes sense ("I wanted to get the Astroglide" versus "Me wanted to get the Astroglide") then you're in the clear.


8.  Your stupid Mary Sues/Marty Stus.

You sneak them in when no one's looking.  You insist they aren't self-inserts, but the smart ones know better.  The Mary Sue is usually paired up with another character (not distracting from the main HAWT YAOI SEXX0RZ, of course), while the Marty Stu can either be paired up with the afore-mentioned "other character," or he can even be the other half of the actual yaoi pairing.

Lesser crimes include making a Mary/Marty one of the main characters' confidants, despite the fact that there were twenty canonical characters to choose from.  Suddenly there's this random, made up character that Leon has to run and confide in, despite the fact that he has D/Jill/Chris in the manga.  


9.  Addendum.

I'm a yaoi fangirl.  I confess this.  I embrace this.  I enjoy the occasional pure smut or WAFF or angst-ridden fic.  Unfortunately, however, I do not always enjoy my fellow fangirls and what they produce.  Ultimately I'm probably in the yaoi community to stay (for better or for worse), but that doesn't mean I'm not going to bitch about things every once in a while.  

Things can be improved.  Always.

I desperately want to see the yaoi fandom improve.


10.  Useful Links.

USE THEM, THEY ARE YOUR FRIENDS.

Dictionary.com: dictionary.reference.com
Google: www.google.com/
Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Pag…
GrammarStation.com: www.grammarstation.com/     Thanks to my fellow LJer thespooniest for pointing this one out.
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An... "essay" I wrote concerning the fandom I am the most active in, yaoi. The original can be found here: [link]


And yes, as I have been told, it can apply to more than one fandom. That's great. However, I wrote this really with only yaoi in mind, seeing as how it's the fandom I know the most about.

EDIT FOR THE UNNATURALLY DENSE:

Look, you. You know who you are. You're all pissy because you think I'm a big ol' meanie. Before you shoot yourself in the foot, you need to know the following:

1. This rant is my opinion. I have never stated it to be anything other than such.

2. Stop accusing me of being an evil yaoi-hating harpy. I'm not. I explicitly state that I am a yaoi fangirl. (And *no,* smartass, that doesn't mean I hate myself.)

3. Stop thinking you are clever for telling me that people are allowed to have their own opinions/preferences in response to my rant about MY OPINIONS AND PREFERENCES.

4. There is no #4.

5. I never, ever attack anyone personally in my rant. If it seems like something I've said is directed specifically at you (or your best friend, or your small dog, or whatever), let me clear this up right now: IT ISN'T. I ask that you grant me the same courtesy.

6. This was mainly written for "the lulz." That is to say, for you to laugh at. Perhaps even learn from. If you are not satisfied with my brand of "the funny," too bad. No refunds! May I suggest Calvin and Hobbes?

EDIT AGAIN: Holy shit, people are still looking at this. Uh, okay. I understand that the Internet is forever and all, so I'm not really going to marvel at that fact. Just so you guys know, though, I've pretty much abandoned dA out of laziness and will, with 99.9% certainty, not be replying to comments any more. Sorry guys, that's what happens when real life takes over.

tl;dr - If you enjoyed the rant, fuck yeah, I'm glad you liked it. If you hated it and think I'm mean, I don't care in the least and would probably consider you to be an idiot.
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EmmieyCathiey Featured By Owner 5 days ago
I agree with a lot of this. I hate the ooc crap, I don't like Mary Sue shit, and bad grammar/spelling drives me up the wall. I have a neutral opinion of mpreg, some of it is nauseating, but if written in a way that makes sense (hermaphroditism) then it isn't bad. I'm surprised you didn't mention the non consensual sex that often takes place in some yaoi stuff.
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drawling1234game Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2014
Thank you! I agree with everything especially #7 its like when they type they have like a spazz attack in the middle of the story and the words and the sentences don't make any sence!
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Gavarre Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
I'll be really grateful if someone like you can provide me a constructive criticism for my fanfic, because I knew someone like you would take my story seriously. 
I know this is a very late reply and I'm sorry. Just happened to find this rant recently. 
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Timscorpion Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with your opinion.
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Rhov Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hello, fellow yaoi lover (but yaoi-fan hater...yes, I saw that you are not hating on the concept of yaoi, but the flippant floozy fangirls who have overrun it.)

I agree, the yaoi fandom is rife with trashy smut that makes no sense at all. All I can say is, nearly all of these points apply to non-yaoi fiction just as much as it does to yaoi. It's the very nature of fanfiction. "I want to see XY bang XX and I don't care if they've never spoken to one another, or they hate each other, or they're friends but he's in a relationship with another character."

I happen to be a professional writer and happily married woman who writes erotica on the side, and yeah, fanfic yaoi (straight stories, too). I don't overuse Japanese keywords; that's really annoying, like some juvenile attempt at bragging about being an otaku ,"Ooh, look how many Japanese words I know." I only use "nakama" because there is no good English word for that concept, and I use it in my personal life. I proofread a chapter five times to search and destroy spelling errors. Believe it or not, I have a plot and stick to it. (Okay, confession: I've written some PWPs, but only to fulfill requests.) I keep them as much in character as possible, which is easy in yaoi if their sexuality is ambiguous. Mpreg is something I flat out refuse to write about... EVER! Thesaurus.com is my most frequently visited website right after Gmail.

The trouble is, most fanfic authors are girls who just want more hot boy action. There's a psychological analysis about yaoi that also suggests the appeal to women has to do with yaoi being "non-threatening" to females. We're not forced to see some overly-sexualized and anatomically impossible lady being used to the satisfaction of some domineering man. There are no triggers for victims of sexual assault (1 in 6 women are raped or nearly raped in America... lots of potential triggers!) I have written rape-fics, but I do it in a way that shows the ugliness of the act. I flat out refuse all requests for glorification of non-consensual acts, and I direct that requester to websites about rape recovery so maybe they'll think twice.

Fanfic writers are also typically very young, averaging 13-19. Yaoi, yuri, or straight: their writing is going to reflect their experience. Ask a poor-grammar-spewing yaoi author to write straight porn, it's going to be written just as horribly. It's still good experience. I encourage them, even the high school kids who are virgins and afraid to say the word "penis" out loud and really have no clue what a kiss feels like, let alone the things they are writing about. Let's just say, I'm twice that average age. I know what a penis is, how it is used, and what it feels like in ALL orifices. Too much information, I know. I'm just saying, I use my experience in my writing. That makes me rare, and old on fanfiction.net, but maybe what you need to find are older authors, not 13 year olds. Read published gay erotica. Fanfics fulfill inner fantasies, but they rarely fulfill my desire for superb storytelling.

Well.... this is far more than I thought I would say when I started typing. I hope you find some GOOD yaoi out there, and don't let the immaturity of the fans destroy your love of yaoi. 90% of all fanfiction is crap, and it doesn't matter what genitalia was used. Finding one of those rare gems is really satisfactory.

Sincerely,
"Wild Rhov" on fanfiction.net
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NaokiRynneMidnight Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
o_O

Haters gunna hate......
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MenollySagittaria Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The most ironic thing about it is there's oodles and oodles of actual yaoi CANON material out there . . . so why does any fan have to turn everything they come into contact with into yaoi, just because they like it? If two boys have a deep, developed relationship in canon and are ostensibly straight, I can see it. If someone decides to write a detailed, characterized account of how two guys who *don't have that much of a relationship end up together, more power to them. But if you're only after two dicks fencing each other, why would it matter to whom they're attached? (sarcasm) Nevermind that this devalues and fetishizes REAL gay relationships into just sex appeal, when they can be as much about emotional intimacy and romantic struggles, too? Write the characters as real people, please. You might just find that you and your readers will subtly treat actual attractive people less as objects and more as complex beings, too. And the payoff for chapters of tension and build up makes the reward all the sweeter. 
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Chibi-Vodka Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2014
I don't disagree with you completely. I've read too many fanfics where all the sentences are like this:

he want to te car "well, I guess I can dpare a few minutes."

I just can't take it! Like, use proper English! I also agree with you that using Japanese words in place of English words is a stupid idea. However, like you said, there are some really good fics out there that are just dying to be read.
I think the only thing I will disagree with you about is the MPreg, but I'm biased because my first yaoi fanfiction was an MPreg. ^^; I believe you've made some good points though~!
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SANIC-I Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2014
whats wrong with just wanting hawt guys to bang? I only watch sonic because I enjoy seeing sonic and tails do hawt yaoi together.
omg so hawt. 
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BikuNekoKawaii Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
That wS SO MAEDAJ WSHY DO YOUJ HATED TGHE KAWSAII ANIME-KA YQAOIZZZ ITWS SO KAWAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111
YOU SAY ITS YOUR OPINION BUT ITS SO MEEN SO SHUT UP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
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